I posted this on another forum to a fellow who was asking for a method to summon Baal. My reply isn’t specific to Baal and I thought this might be useful to some so I’m reposting it here.
1. Research what it is you want to summon. In the case of Baal, the name can refer to numerous things, including several deities, so you need to figure out exactly what Baal you want to summon, and then you need to get an idea of how Baal is seen, what people generally think about him, and what he’s probably like. So long as it’s something that is popular or common internet searches will probably turn up enough information for the summoning. Be sure to check out encyclopedia mythica and wikipedia, although not always accurate they can still have a lot of information to help you out.
2. Find a statue or image of what you want to summon, and if you can’t find that then try for a symbol associated with it. Spiritual depictions are usually better than artistic depictions, but in any case go with the depiction that you feel most closely resembles what you’re trying to summon. If you have no other alternative you can make your own depiction.
3. Remove any barriers, wards, ect. that you may have around the general area that you’ll be doing the summoning (most likely your home). This includes personal wards and barriers, ones that are anchored to objects (be aware of certain things that may be decoration but are used for protection because they may have become active and can effect the summoning. This includes gargoyle statues and depictions of pentagrams), and ones that may have been put up by others.
4. Take down your shields and natural defenses. Any type of defense can hinder the summoning.
5. Make sure you aren’t in any kind of circle. Make sure there are no seals or sigils in the area since these may have an unknown effect. Refrain from doing any pre-ritual type ritual including asking for protection from anything. We don’t want to be putting up new barriers.
6. Now take your depiction of what you want to summon (in this case Baal), and place it somewhere (such as on a table or a night stand). You can just leave a picture on your computer screen if you want, that works too. Or you can print out a picture and put it in a frame and then place it on a table (the later method will generally bring better results). Now you need to activate this as an alter, in this case to Baal. Unless you want to develop a very strong relationship with Baal, this will probably just be a makeshift alter that we will take down after the summoning.
7. Now that the alter is ready non-aggressively direct energy towards the depiction of Baal with the intent that this energy is to be received directly by Baal. Make sure your defenses and your shields are down and, if he chooses to, Baal will also be able to direct his energy towards you. With a little practice you should be able to figure out how to bury thoughts into the energy in order to communicate, and you’ll be able to receive thoughts in the same manner.
8. Whether or not Baal responds you should also make it clear that he has an invitation to appear in your house and that you wish for him to come.
9. Have fun with your summoning adventures.
January 17, 2009 at 2:24 pm |
the name Baal has been stalking me all of my life i have seen it on road signs in other countries in graffiti on walls its popped up in games its not like any other demon name i have studied it seemed to be more raised from any book or web page and i am worried why he/it is trying to contact me
January 17, 2009 at 11:15 pm |
Well Baal is a fairly common name, it appears in a lot of places. If you do think that, for some reason, Baal is trying to initiate a conversation, then it’s probably best that you return the call. Gods are sometimes known for initiating conversations in the way you described, sometimes spending years developing a relationship prior to a first contact, although I haven’t noticed that in regards to daimons/demons. I have noticed that they don’t necesserly follow the same rules of time as we do, and that often times they tend to be around in some regard hours, days, or even weeks before they’re invoked, although I haven’t noticed this phenomena extending back years.
In any case, evoke Baal and see what he wants. You can use the above method, or you can do an actual evocation and bring him forth. Or just try asking him to come forth and talk to you, if he is so connected to you and trying to initiate something that might be more than enough. The things in Goetia should be approached with some caution. Many are completely benevolent. Some are malicious though, and some offer guidance in ways that may be mentally or physically traumatic. But there’s nothing in there so dangerous that you should stay away. Just don’t make any deals that you aren’t comfortable with and show respect and you should be fine. If you take care of this you’ll at least get some peace of mind in regards to the situation.
August 31, 2009 at 12:24 am |
Any serious occultist would throw this out the window. But even if you had reason to believe this would work, it’d still be the most reckless, idiotic spiritual manoeuvre conceivable. The equivalent of pulling a known serial killer off the street and telling him he can sleep on your sofa.
Ba’al is considered on-par with Mephistopheles and Satan. Being on the same continent as he is generally best avoided.
August 31, 2009 at 3:55 am |
In my experience, serious occultists aren’t frightened by magick but practice it.
The effectiveness of the method is easily proved. It requires a very basic amount of ability with energy manipulation and very small investment of time to set everything up. If there’s anyone out there that can’t get this to work, I’d be more than happy to help them figure it out.
Now go away little boy and stop trying to puff out your chest. Your statement makes you look like both a fool and a scared little bitch.
September 15, 2009 at 1:35 am |
What are the risks and dangers involved with evoking him?
September 19, 2009 at 3:50 am |
The method I detailed above isn’t an actual evocation. It’s a form of channeling, one that I was taught as a way to commune with the divine and tweaked a bit, but it can work for nearly anything (though not as successfully).
As such, the method isn’t nearly as dangerous as evocations. When talking to a divine entity, there’s very little risk unless there’s some reason why a deity would want to harm you. You might have some difficulty dealing with divine energy if you aren’t used to it as it can be fairly strong.
When talking to anything else, it’s pretty much as dangerous as a channel. So there’s a chance of channeling the wrong thing, being deceived; persuaded; and corrupted, you can be pulled through the channel, you can actually cause a full evocation (this is rare), there’s a chance of possession (also rare), and in a very small number of cases it can cause headaches; bleeding in the head (such as the nose, ears, and eyes); and eventually an aneurysm and death; however in this instance you have more than enough time to identify what is happening and cut off the channel. This happens to people who keep going back to something that is hurting them. There are a few other ways you can die via channeling but these are very rare and typically require something closer to mediumship than the method I outlined above.
With an actual evocation there’s quite a bit more of a risk, the actual risk depending somewhat on the method of evocation. You can be attacked, hurt, killed, possessed, whatever. There’s a lot of psychological damage that can be done too.
October 31, 2009 at 7:52 pm |
Okay, thanks Rob, truth be told I wont be doing any of that any time soon, I can’t even meditate or astral proyect, which are supposed to be easy
November 1, 2009 at 10:08 am |
Astral projection is only easy for certain people. There are even a lot of biological factors involved that can make it more difficult to successfully astrally project. A lot of people selling programs say at most 3 or 6 months for dedicated individuals, but in my experience this is more of a selling gimmick than a hard rule (granted a good percentage of people can make the three month mark). The best advice I can give is just find some exercises that you like and stick with them and do them every single day for however long it takes. My first time all I did was sit up in my bed for about thirty seconds before being pulled back, and even that was worth all of the hard work I put into it.
As for meditation, that’s more like a natural skill that can be trained. I’m sure you can achieve some sort of meditation, just like I’m sure you can lift some weight, however small. If you train yourself and work at meditating, you’ll get better, in the same way if you lifted weights you’d eventually be able to lift more and more.
November 1, 2009 at 11:57 pm |
That makes great sense, after all, I’ve never even given a week of my time to trying to meditate, it’s more like on random days I’ll just “try and see if I can’ I was told to sit in the lotus position, but I can’t do that, can’t even do a half lotus, which baffles me because I can both do a splits and put my right leg over my head (Lol sorry for the TMI)
Astral proyection is something I have never, ever tried, I think mainly I’m scared, I’m not to sure about it, if I could go into space or into a demon realm or if it’s dangerous, a friend way back in highschool told me about her aunt who once did it and got chased by a dark entity, I don’t know any way of defending myself (from an attacker) other than physically, and from what I’ve heard, that doesn’t do shit to a “spirit” or a “demon” or something… it’s something I’d like to try, but don’t think I can do it alone…
In your experience, do you think it’s possible to astral proyect with someone else, like sit down with a person who can do it and both try to do it at the same time, do you think they’d see each others astral self?
((sorry if there’s a lot of typos, Im in bed on my laptop all scrunched up, it’s harder to type like that.))
November 3, 2009 at 6:56 am |
Try spending some time stretching prior to the half lotus or lotus position, and be aware that there may be some pain involved until you get used to it. If you still can’t do it, you may want to start with some easier poses and general stretching for a while to work your legs and slowly make them more flexible. You could also try the fake lotus, just cross your legs at the ankles, put your hands on your knees, and keep your back straight. Not ideal, but if it’s the best you can manage it’ll do. The lotus position can definitely help magnify the intensity of a meditation, but until you get to the point where you can do it comfortably with absolutely no pain, discomfort, or stress on your legs, it’ll hurt you more than it helps. More important than anything else during a meditation is to be both completely comfortable and relaxed.
To answer your other question, yes you can astrally project with another, but this is difficult to do, partly because both of you have to be able to project on command, which is hardly an easy feat. More common is to go to sleep and find a person who can project, dreamwalk, and lucid dream to come and get you from your dream and take you out into the astral. Once again, this is very difficult. There aren’t many people who can do all of these things. In addition to that, they need to know how to go about it gently enough to pull you out without waking you up, and you need to surrender to them while in a dream, and most likely non-lucid, state. Plus there’s the difficulty of making sure you’re asleep and dreaming when they come for you. And also your ability to go lucid once you’re outside of the dream and into the astral.
Honestly though, you’re worrying too much about it. To start, your astral body is already there, following you around. It’s not inside of you, it’s an alternate body that your consciousness shifts focus into. Supposing you stay near your physical body, shifting into that consciousness doesn’t put you in any greater danger, it just makes you more aware of it.
And realistically speaking, I wouldn’t worry too much about space or a demon realm right away. There are some nasty places you could end up in. But for most people it takes both time and effort for them to manage to astrally leave their house, or even their bedroom. The chances of being drawn out of your home before you’re ready, let alone being drawn to someplace very bad, are slim.
Just punching a spirit in your physical body might not do anything, but in your astral form you’re made of the same sort of stuff, and punching them will hurt them, at least as long as you believe that it will. If you start thinking it won’t hurt them, it might not, but I’ve never tried this. Myself and others have fought many things with nothing more than punching, kicking, and biting and these attacks are rather effective on the astral plane. Once you’re there you’ll notice how easily thought and intent tend to create a manifestation, and once you get that down you can figure out the fancier attacks.
And if you do come across something scary (or read someone’s scary story about astral projection) keep in mind that the first few times a person projects can be very disorientating, frightening, and violent in and of itself, and adding an unknown entity to the mix, however benign it may in fact be, can cause a person to misjudge the situation and panic. If something is definitely malicious or violent towards you I’d say stand up to it and fight it. Odds are anything that would be powerful enough that you should be scared of it and should stay away from it isn’t going to be interested in you right now during your first few projections. The stuff you’re likely to might in the beginning will be more intimidation than actual power. After you become stronger and more adept and start casting off a huge energy signature then bigger things might start taking more of an interest in you, but at that point you’ll be more able to handle them.
November 3, 2009 at 11:57 pm |
A buddy trying to be helpful told me to try and lay down when to relax while I tried to meditate… I ended up falling asleep xD
I’ll definitely be stretching out and try to get flexible enough to do the full lotus correctly and without pain.
And again, thanks for the help, instead of making you repeat what you’ve probably already typed I’m going to go read your entry on astral proyection and see if you have good tips on how to do that :D thanks
November 5, 2009 at 5:36 am |
It’s just as easy to fall asleep in the lotus position once you get comfortable in it.
I’ve fallen asleep while meditating too. It’s an unfortunate side effect of relaxing your body when you’re tired, and it happens to everyone sometimes. The trick is if you’re caught, claim that you were in a very deep meditation. That and outright deny any accusations that you were also snoring.